Moron With Fireworks Starts Columbia River Gorge Fire

The Eagle Creek fire as of about 9:30 last night. (Image courtesy of SmithHammer Photography)

Is this real life? Who the hell goes into a fire danger zone and sets off fireworks? Apparently, that’s exactly what happened as the Oregon State Police announced that it’s most likely the cause of the Eagle Creek trail fire.

“We believe that fireworks is the cause,” says Sgt. Kaipo Raiser of the Oregon State Police. “We do have a suspect identified. No one has been arrested at this point. Potentially, there could be criminal penalties as well.”

The fire began about a mile up from the Eagle Creek trailhead – which is very close to Punchbowl Falls, a popular spot to explore in Oregon. The fire was started sometime Saturday afternoon, and reported by KATU-TV to have been a teenage boy. According to Oregon State Police, the boy is cooperating with authorities and could be facing charges of arson and reckless endangerment.

As we reported yesterday, this fire sadly resulted in 153 hikers being stranded on the popular trail. Thankfully, those who were stranded have since been rescued.

The fire grew rapidly and is reported to have reached 3,000 acres with 130 homes already evacuated in Cascade Locks.

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  • chuck berg

    try him as an adult

    • peter parker

      Thats what she said.

    • Ray Kristjan Poteet

      Hold the parents accountable too.

  • Ray Kristjan Poteet

    Try and hold the parents accountable too. Parents no longer teach common sense. This is a GREAT example of the question I seem to be asking so often, WHERE WERE HIS PARENTS as he grew up?

    • Pam Slaughter

      and the friend with him that filmed it.

  • Colleen Gaskill

    Teenage boy, mostly impulse.

    • Your Future Ex Husband

      Your stupid ass wouldn’t say that if he shot and killed your child, would you?

      • Mr Killjoy

        False equivalence. Why don’t you take you and your logical fallacy on home and let the adults talk.

        • CptSnark

          This could easily killed more than one child. And the damage done will take decades to go away.

          • Dustin Khabir

            That doesn’t change the reason this happened. Only the consequences.

      • Colleen Gaskill

        Teenage boys tend to operate mostly by impulse. That doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be held responsible for his actions. And why can’t you converse in a civilized manner?

        • mike

          Because he can hide behind a computer screen…Most likely experiences road rage on a daily or weekly basis as well. Very courageous while not face to face.

    • elaich

      The only possible point here is that it’s not really their fault. May as well just call this a natural disaster, right? C’mon. As a society we really need to stop making this excuse for “boys” who act in harmful ways. It’s demeaning and disrespectful to teenagers, and it’s dangerous because some get the idea that they can just do whatever they want, because if they get caught they’ll get off with a slap on the wrist.

      • Colleen Gaskill

        I taught high school for 31 years. I have well experienced the teenager impulse. Furthermore, my students well experienced that I had high expectations for their behavior. Recognizing that teenagers have impulse control issues in no way excuses them, or gets them off with a slap on the wrist. What it means is that as a teacher it was my responsibility to have high expectations. My kids weren’t perfect, but they knew about consequences, so they were respectful. Sometimes they were in trouble as well. It would not be unusual for a teenage boy with fireworks to fire them off first, and think second. That doesn’t mean he’s not culpable, just that he made a foolish choice. Now he has to face serious consequences, which is appropriate.

        • Cat Gee

          blah blah blah, poster making this about themselves.

          “teenage impulse” is no excuse. stop.

          • Dustin Khabir

            She gives you her experience with kids to explain teenage behavior and you scoff at it because she isn’t an extremist like you are? I question your intelligence.

          • jimmydd

            And we all question yours.

  • streamfortyseven

    If he’s the one who started it, he should be made to help put it out. On the ground, with a fire crew. He’ll learn the hard way, but he’ll learn.

  • Katherine

    Forest destroyed, wildlife suffering and dead bc an idiot teenage boy was bored and just had to throw fireworks off a cliff in the Gorge. Try him as an adult, convict and sentence to long prison time. Parents should be held financially responsible for damage. Just sickening, our beautiful gorge in flames from a moron’s actions. No mercy.

    • Dustin Khabir

      I guess you were a perfect kid growing up?

      • Mary Keehfuss-Calvanese

        I agree with you Dustin Khabir.
        My brother played with matches, and set our neighbors barn on fire.
        Boys will be boys..
        Stupid young teenagers.
        The kid was bored, panicked, and scared.. just pray that nobody died in the process of the disaster..

        • Mona Jones-Romansic

          The disaster isn’t over. The fire isn’t contained. Fire fighters are putting their lives on the line. A huge metro area is struggling with unhealthy air …again. Boys will be boys? No. Boys need to be taught that the rules and the consequences apply to them too. I agree with the people saying he should be put out on the mop up crew in the 100 degree weather.

          • Cat Gee

            yup! just like those hikers had to hike 14 miles in 100 degree weather to be evacuated because emergency relief was not able to help them, trapped between 2 fires.

            what an exciting vacation! but boys will be boys, or something. gross.

        • Gmail Account

          This is exactly what’s wrong with our society today. Let them do as they please and show them leniency because they’re just little baby boys who could’ve never understood the dangers of their “innocent” action. If this were my child, I’d encourage procecution. But I know my child has more sense than these teens. And today is his first day in Kindergarten; he’s 5. Kids learn right from wrong very young. There’s no reason for leniency here. If an adult accidentally causes harm to someone, they face procecution even if intention wasn’t there. This was pure malice, not innocent boys being boys.

        • mel rolleri

          boys will be boys is one of the stupidest sentences ever uttered. no excuse!

        • Judith Salyer

          HEY MARY FUCK YOU TOO THIS WASNT A BARN THIS IS A NATIONAL FOREST THERE WERE 160 HIKERS UP THERE WHO COULD HAVE ALL BEEN KILLED. THROW THE BOOK AT THEM AND MAKE THEM WORK AT DOING REFORESTATION THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.

        • Cat Gee

          pray that nobody died? oh but i thought you believed in “boys will be boys”. or would you change that belief if someone had? what an ignorant, stupid thing to say.

        • Mikey Mendez

          I actually agree with you. Boys will be boys and get into trouble. But this is a 15 year old boy who deliberately lit fireworks and threw them into a freaking forest. There was no panic, he knew what he was doing. Both him and his friend should be held accountable for what they did and not let off easy.

      • Yagami206

        I knew fire safety at a young age. Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts. I’m not particularly overjoyed at the idea of punishing him as an adult, but the kid’s age is no excuse for his parents being asleep at the wheel.

      • Debra Hill

        I think I knew about fire when I was 6. Sure as hell was not allowed to throw fireworks around. How stupid do you have to be before someone chains you up????

      • Judith Salyer

        HEY DUSTIN FUCK YOU. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS. JUST STOP NOW.

        • Dustin Khabir

          Wow, lots of perfect kids who never disobeyed or broke the rules commenting.

          • jimmydd

            I think we should put you on trial also.

          • Dustin Khabir

            LMAO put on trial for stating opinions? Is the all mighty government going to strike me down for stating opinions you don’t agree with.

            Put yourself on trial for ignorance on how our government works.

          • Nadia Whitewolf

            Dustin shut the hell up you moron. The more you talk the more you sound like a dumbass.

          • jimmydd

            See the problem is your opinions blow along with you’re acting like a troll.

          • Dustin Khabir

            Interesting, run out of argument so you resort to a more personal attack. Typical.

          • Melissa Blanchard

            Yes, there are. They learned as children. It’s a basic rule.

          • mike

            Hey nice strawman! Let me fix your comment…
            “Wow, lots of perfect kids who never started a catastrophic forest fire commenting.”
            Now can you see why most folks are questioning your reasoning ability?

          • Dustin Khabir

            Not a very good fix. I get the point everyone is trying to make. I think it is what people think as adults. When you’re a teenager you don’t think something small like a smoke bomb can start a large scale forest fire.

            But I guess many of you have forgotten what being a teenager is like and deluding yourselves into thinking you were perfect so you can place yourself on a pedestal to justify your judgement of others. The problem is you are lying to yourself.

          • jimmydd

            Sounds like you acted like an ass as a teenager.

          • mike

            Who said anything about being perfect? Yet another strawman built by you. It’s not an all or nothing situation here. One doesn’t need to be “perfect” here to judge the teens actions. This wasn’t some teenage prank gone bad. These morons didn’t run someones mailbox over. They set a forest on fire…on purpose…they didn’t “accidentally” throw fireworks into the forest. They brought them there, lit them and then threw them into the forest. Pointing out the moronic and indefensible actions of these mental midgets isn’t, placing “yourself on a pedestal to justify your judgement of others.” It’s called, “Describing what happened.”
            Please enlighten me as to how I’ve somehow “lied to myself.” Lol. I find it rather telling how easily you can relate to these morons. smh.

          • demoman

            i lived on and around land in oregon in high forest fire danger and always had fireworks for years, and thats how old they were because i knew better then to take the chance of a fire. these kids should have known better.

      • Cat Gee

        @dustin Khabir i guess you did tens of millions in damage to other people and innumerable wildlife and wilderness damage growing up?

        no? then it’s not the same and it’s a frankly stupid example. what happened here is defenseless. only a sociopath or a moron would defend what is happening here in the gorge as “oh well no kid is perfect hurrr durrrr”. or are you just not from here and can’t think outside your own 2-mile bubble? you have no idea what you’re talking about and you have no idea what it’s like.

      • abrxas

        Obviously, there are no stops on the spectrum between Perfect Kid and Forest Arsonist. Therefore, since we all did stupid (but not catastrophic) things as kids, we’re not allowed to call for accountability for these two douchebags. Makes perfect sense. Dumbass.

        • Dustin Khabir

          Ok a lot of you people seem to like throwing around the word dumbass so allow me to participate.

          If ANY of you DUMBASSES can prove that those boys were out there to start a large scale forest fire then I’ll shut up right now.

          If not, then maybe you DUMBASSES can quit frothing at the mouth and going after kids like they were evil murderers or terrorists.

          I’m not excusing how much damage they have caused, but seems to me like most of you have no sympathy to some kids lighting fireworks in the wrong place. The fire is an ACCIDENT, a stupid accident but still an accident. I wouldn’t try the kids as adults. I would sentence them to community service to help restore the destroyed part of the forest caused by their fire.

          • Nadia Whitewolf

            Dustin Khabir It wasn’t an accident freaking dumbass. The kid purposely threw the smoke bomb in the ravine. Don’t tell me that a 15 years old kiddo doesn’t know that at the end of August, it’s really dry out and it takes nothing to start anything on fire. If it had been an accident he would have dropped it, but he THREW IT. Hmm hello ?? What the fuck was he doing there in the first place with smoke bomb and firecrackers knowing something like this would happen? Kid showed NO remorse at all after he got caught. You and the kid’s parent are what’s wrong with today’s society. Defending these little shit after what they have done. Putting people’s lives in danger, their homes, belongings, memories. Shut up you ignorant idiot.

          • Cat Gee

            you fucking ingrate. they started it on purpose, filmed it, laughed, and tried to escape.

            hope you feel better after reading this!

            http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/09/05/woman-witnessed-teen-tossing-firecrackers-into-gorge-there-was-a-whole-group-of-kids-who-found-it-funny-to-do-this/

          • Dustin Khabir

            Removing the person’s opinions and just taking the facts it sounds like normal rebellious teens. I’ve been in similar trouble as a teen with fireworks minus the wildfire. Their response was predictable of not wanting to get in trouble. They are cooperating with the police now.

            So the kid who threw the firework was trying to be a badass in front of his friends and made a mistake. It was a smoke bomb so they probably figured it was ok.

            I’m not excusing what he did but I do understand why he did it. That doesn’t make him as bad as you are trying to make him out to be.he will face the consequences of his actions. I still think you’re overreacting.

          • Kenny Ross

            There is no such thing as a perfect kid of course but parents need to be held accountable and in this case they should be criminally charged. My parents taught me well over and over, the pitfalls of fireworks and asshole behavior. Did i never do anything stupid? No. But i had a good sense of what was acceptable or not; what was heinous behavior and what not. Anyone who is 15 with an IQ over 50 would know not to do what this kid did unless there was some fundamental lapse of respect for everything in the world. And that is a big problem.

          • Dustin Khabir

            Oh look, someone else who was a stand up kid. Good for you. I’m getting tired of repeating myself so feel free to read through the comments because I’ve already responded to your statement.

          • Kenny Ross

            And how many children do you have Einstein?

          • Dustin Khabir

            None of your business.

          • Kenny Ross

            Was a loaded question. You should think about it Einstein as you are so impressed with yourself.

          • Dustin Khabir

            I have. Thanks for the suggestion.

          • George Karen

            the problem with that is nowadays you have very limited ways to discipline a kid. You can be a great parent and still have a sociopath for a child….. I sort of feel bad for the parents because to have your kid do something like that would really make you hate them. The two boys should be criminally charged and have to serve 10,000 community hours replanting and cleaning up the place they destroyed. Yes we all did stupid things as as children, but this was beyond stupid kid behaviour.

          • James Jacobson

            because they were fricking idiots. ….DUMBSSD!

          • demoman

            you wouldnt say that if you lost a house and or animals and had to look at scorched land for years to come.

          • Dustin Khabir

            A hurricane is currently on its way to my house. Things can be replaced.

          • Joseph

            Dustin, some kid didn’t turn on a fan in dangerous hurricane conditions to start the hurricane. This fire was 100% preventable. This was at minimum a reckless act, at worse malicious with premeditated intent. That kid is lucky no hikers were actually overrun by the fire.

          • Dustin Khabir

            Stupid comment. The court will decide whether or not it was malicious. I don’t think it was. That is my opinion. Have a nice day.

          • Sara Randall Almirall Takikawa

            Why on Earth would anyone have sympathy for such idiocracy? Unless, you’re a breeder and only relate to children and their stupidity. Never mind the forests (sans controlled burning), wildlife, and displaced citizens when a moron child is involved.

        • demoman

          look what they did to the Hammonds for letting a few extra acres burn in a control burn. They got 5 years m prison

      • sandy66

        So boys will be boys? This little prick lights the most beautiful natural place near our city, endangers the homes and lives of thousands,will cost MILLIONS in tourism revenue and jobs for this area for god knows how long….boys will be boys? You’re kidding right?

      • Melissa Blanchard

        So, He’s a friend of your’s hu?
        Too bad no one taught him about how to respect the forest. That playing with matches and fireworks can start a fire. He need to talk to Smokey Bear.

        • Dustin Khabir

          Sarcasm! I love Sarcasm! Yes, he is a close personal friend of mine! I’ll back my friends all the way from here in Florida. Pfft LMAO.

          • Melissa Blanchard

            Thought so.

          • Nadia Whitewolf

            Better yet, go back to your country

          • Erica J. Thompson

            That’s just racist and has no place in this conversation. He can express his opinion.

          • demoman

            im thinking it was a joke….maybe not but funny either way.

          • Arturo Sarmiento

            Showing your real face, Nadia?

          • Dustin Khabir

            Go back to California? American citizen here born and raised. See what I mean? Why are we all so quick to attack each other? It’s like a lot of people are out for blood these days.

          • Peggy Rielly

            Dustin do us all a favor and buy a pair of tweezers, pinch your little wee wee off so you don’t procreate. Thanks

          • Dustin Khabir

            Wow, very mature. Oh, and too late on the procreation.

          • Tony DeCaro

            Your sister doesn’t count.

          • Dustin Khabir

            Off target again. Why would you even think that? What’s wrong with you?

          • Arturo Sarmiento

            Sarcasm is one thing, stupidity is another very different.

          • Trina Durham

            You know when I began reading this I could see your point about kids or teenager doing things which are not so smart and not doing it with the intent of starting a fire..however, the more I read you and your posts I read your inability to HEAR anything other than your own words or in your mind your own truth. My Son is 15 years old and we live in Portland, Or and we wake up to our home smelling like a fire, ashed all over our property and our vehicles. This however, is nothing compared to the actual forest burning Dustin. Do you have any idea what it feels like to know the place you travel to for apples and see the beautiful Cody Farms signs, among others burning, the falls we drive to, the out look post, which is part of the Lewis and Clark trails all burning along with homes. Our schools have closed, our children and adults wear masks. I understand kids well and I understands kids being kids. However, Dustin I am hear to tell you a 15 yr old boy who doesn’t have enough brains to not set off fireworks in a forest with a ban on burning..you can stick up for him all day long. I drive a special needs bus and my kids would know not to do this. Just like my 15 yr old Son looked at me like I was crazy when I asked if he would do something like this. I was a kid, grew up in the country and I did less than smart things..like throwing rocks where I knew we weren’t suppose to and breaking windows..however, this is a different caliber of neglect and not using his brain. I believe he should have to look at the devastation he caused and plant those trees one gentleman spoke of and keep doing this work until it is complete. Do you even realize or understand the destruction caused by his one deliberate and stupid mistake . It was not OK. Whether he intended to start a HUGE FOREST FIRE or not is not the question. The question is did he in sound mind light fireworks or a smoke bomb in the forest where there was ban? Did he know there was the possibility of a fire? We have to take responsibility for our actions my friend…whether we are 15 or 50. This young man made a very poor choice. IT WAS A CHOICE. No one forced this on him. Just like when a person gets in a car and kills another person..it may be an accident however, they are still held accountable. When you started mouthing off about being in Florida this is when I realized you would argue with a fence post..you will argue a point which is pointless. No matter how you look at this..this young man made a poor choice and his poor choice affects so many different people, places, animals and things. There are some beautiful places in Florida. I was a flight attendant and I have seen beauty everywhere. Why don’t you quick arguing for the sake or arguing and put yourself in our shoes…not a 15 years olds shoes who fucked up major…He fucked up no matter how much you want to argue the point. You are not the judge and jury and he will have one…if nothing else his parents MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. Really Dustin, check yourself, check you motives. Do you just need to be right so badly that you will continue to argue in this post..people here are sad, mad, angry, frustrated, scared and beside ourselves with the knowing of a fire of this magnitude whether started intentionally or not was started by ne careless 15 year old young man WHO KNEW BETTER…

          • Dustin Khabir

            I’m so glad to see a well thought out post. I did mention in my previous posts and I will say it again. I do not in any way excuse his actions and he will suffer the consequences of his actions.

            What I have been arguing about with the other people on this forum is they paint a picture of a 15 year old kid as if he was a terrorist out to hurt people or cause mass destruction. I’ve seen people wanting him tried as an adult to life in prison and one person went so far as to suggest the death penalty.

            Yes I understand he made a huge lapse in judgment and probably didn’t expect a fire to even start from a smoke bomb or for that matter turn into the fire it has become. I must confess I was surprised to see the fire was the result of a smoke bomb. Initially I thought it came from a bigger fire cracker.

            Is the future of this mistake worth life in prison for this boy who made a stupid mistake that is quite typical of kids his age? Is his life over before it even began? I’m not defending his actions. At the end of the day, the forest will grow back, nobody died, and things can be replaced.

            Should his punishment be harsh? Yes. Should his punishment be the end of his life whether that be life in prison or a death sentence? I have to say no.

        • Cat Gee

          it’s not even on high alert. it’s PAST high alert off the alert scale. there are signs everywhere showing this. there is an absolute ban on all flammable materials in the forest.

      • ABaskauskas

        hah… Thank you, Dustin, for your idiotic logic. There is an incredible difference between the average kid who errs and gets suspended from school (which is actually even a rare blunder among most juveniles) or some other typical teenage mistake and the kid who accidentally starts a multi-state, 10,000 acre forest fire. Your sweeping generalization about individual commenters that assumes past imperfection = “welp, all dee kidz make dee mistakes, so all dee mistakes iz dee same.” Do you understand how stupid you sound? Probably not.
        Kids make mistakes. Adults make mistakes. However, there is a significant degree of separation among those mistakes, and, typically, those mistakes are judged and punished based on the doer’s understanding of the consequence(s). In this case, a teenager of sound and able mind, a mind which can be accurately estimated in terms of average mental development in correlation with age and society, is expected to understand the consequence of lighting FIREworks in a fire danger zone and forest.
        TL;DR: stop being a complete idiot

        • Dustin Khabir

          Like I said, prove they did it on purpose and I’ll shut up.

          • Cat Gee

            they threw lit fireworks into a forest that was on a burn ban & high alert for forest fires, after 2 months of no rain on a 100 degree day.

            you’re the one defending them. YOU prove that they DIDN’T do it on purpose or act willfully negligently.

          • Dustin Khabir

            Since when do kids pay attention to the burn ban?

            I don’t need to prove anything because I’m not the one out to see kids hanged.

          • Cat Gee

            you’re the one out to prove that they did nothing wrong.

            and actually, i messed with fireworks a lot as a kid / teen. they sell fireworks without age limit where i’m from. i was still never stupid or sociopathic enough to light them into a forest during a burn ban after 2 months of no rain on a 100 degree day.

            again, you have zero clue what you’re talking about and are arguing just to argue. so i’f you’re going to argue that the complete destruction of a forest, several towns, and hundreds of PEOPLE’S HOMES was an “innocent mistake” by someone who is supposed to be an adult in a couple years, that claim is on YOU to defend.

            bye!

          • Dustin Khabir

            Lol do you even listen to yourself? Sociopathic behavior? Do you even know what that means? They didn’t seem like sociopaths in the video.

            You’re innocent until proven guilty in this country. Yes they started the fire. Wether or not they did out of malice is for the courts to decide. Your accusations are baseless given the small amount of information you have. I’m just glad you aren’t sitting on that jury given how quickly you jump to conclusions.

            Bye!

          • jimmydd

            Good lord you sound like an asshole.

          • Tony DeCaro

            Not just an asshole, but a stupid asshole.

          • Cat Gee

            why are you even posting? do you live here? is your farm with hundreds of animals in need of being relocated here? is your historic orchard that tens of thousands of people travel to (not counting locals) that sustains an entire community economically now a pile of ash? have you ever lived <5 miles from a forest fire at 0% containment after three days? no? then shut the fuck up with your hypotheticals. bye felicia.

          • Tony DeCaro

            I think kids are smarter than you.

          • Dustin Khabir

            Don’t think so. Seems to me more like I’m not quick to jump to conclusions like the rest of you are before having all the facts.

          • Cat Gee

            again, you clearly aren’t here and have no clue what you’re talking about. you’re trolling. you’re trying to make this emergency somehow about your “freedom” (and by some half-assed extension for the sake of your imaginary argument, theirs). GTFO troll.

          • Peggy Rielly

            Prove that they didn’t.

          • Dustin Khabir

            They haven’t proved it was out of malice.

          • mike

            Read the article again…they have eye witnesses…smh

          • Dustin Khabir

            Witnesses saw him throw it yes, but they haven’t proved it was out of malice.

          • mike

            If I chuck a brick at you and it kills you, then I shouldn’t be judged too harshly because all I was trying to do was get your attention…Hey no malice involved…Nobody is perfect.

          • Dustin Khabir

            I think that is probably the worst comparison I’ve ever heard.

          • mike

            Why does it not surprise anyone that you didn’t understand it. Lol

          • Dustin Khabir

            I understood it. Doesn’t mean you got it right.

          • mike

            Well of course you understood it, Sparky…It’s obvious from your responses. Lol.

          • demoman

            hahaha “i didnt hit you, i high fived your head”. lol same logic.

          • Tony DeCaro

            Congratulations, I’m impressed. Riling all these people up, that’s some grade A trolling right there. I salute you.

          • Dustin Khabir

            If having a different opinion than most other people is trolling then so be it.

          • jimmydd

            Did you even read the article? They admitted it.

          • ABaskauskas

            That’s great that you’re a complete idiot and think that commenters need to prove to you that they purposefully did this, but that’s not how crime and punishment works. Intent (which for your dumbass means “dem kidz meant to dooz it”) is actually far different than your kindergarten definition when it comes to law. I won’t get into any of the Latin with you, as that’ll be far too complicated for you, but you can do a simple Google search on that front. You do know what Google is, right?
            Intent revolves around the idea of a guilty mind and the mental state of the accused. Within that concept, criminal intent (remember: dem kidz meansin to dooz things) can be defined through purposeful acts (acts where the person knew the consequence and wanted the consequence), knowing acts (acts committed with knowledge of the consequence), reckless acts (where the accused doesn’t want the consequence, knows what the consequence is, but continues with the unlawful act anyway), and negligence (the failure of the accused to act as a reasonable person in the given situation).
            As you can see, just because these teenagers *possibly* did not mean to start a fire on purpose does not mean they are innocent. Even under the lowest form (negligence), they are still guilty of a crime.
            And no, I’m not a lawyer; I’m just a guy who is way smarter than you. You can shut up now.

          • Karen Wilson

            I’m with Dustin. The kid needs a psych assessment and we need to know a lot more about him before we say lock him up and throw away the key. If he’s mentally capable, part of his punishment should be to fight forest fires for 10 years.

        • Cat Gee

          troll: GIVE ME PROOF IT WAS ON PURPOSE, ARGUING
          people: *gives proof it was on purpose / spiteful / for the lolz
          troll: THEY’RE INNOCENT AND YOU WERE ALL PERFECT CHILDREN IM ARGUING JUST TO ARGUE LOL

      • James Jacobson

        What has that got to do with anything Dustin Khabir?She was smart enough not to throw fireworks in a tinder dry forest,moron!

    • Judith Salyer

      Dont throw him in prison…instead put him to work for the rest of his life planting trees and doing restoration of plants and etc and he has to do this for NO PAY. And his friend who was filming him throwing the firecrackers with his cell phone TOO!! Make them work until its all restored. No pay no nothing. The parents have to supply housing and transportation but those two need to fully understand what they destroyed and the only way to do that is to make them repair the damage as much as is possible.NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES.

      • Sue Mceneny

        I like that idea

      • George Karen

        I fully agree………… both should have to spend at least tens of thousands of hours cleaning up and replanting the area………. as community volunteer hours. You are right, that is the only thing that will make them understand.

  • Charlie Debobo

    ” this fire sadly resulted in 153 hikers being stranded” Like that’s the sad part.

    • Ting Liu

      And death of lots of wildlife

      • Judith Salyer

        sadly and tragically yes…………………..

    • Judith Salyer

      They could have been killed!!!! there were children among those hikers!!!!!

  • Talon Cherry

    He is cooperating with police efforts, good. In many cases like this one the cause is never connected to the individual that caused it. Thinking back to my teanage years I can’t say with any level of certainty that I would have spoke up or said anything at all. I can say that I would have definitely taken advantage of getting my hands on some fireworks, I wonder where it was he aquired such things… Poor choices are common amongst the youth in all generations. I think in this case looking to the individuals that made setting off fireworks in the Forrest an option for him to choose to do or not to do would also be acceptable. Yes he should be held accountable for his actions, and their consuquences, as should anyone who had the chance to stop him from doing it.

    • Cat Gee

      fireworks are incredibly easy to obtain, this shouldn’t be a mystery. even in states they are supposedly prohibited, they are still sold in stores and at fireworks stands several times a year, and they are sold to minors. and even if he didn’t buy his own, someone’s parents ALWAYS has leftover fireworks from holidays for the pilfering. i messed with fireworks a lot as a kid, including buying my own (anything from sparklers to m80’s to rockets, i was never carded or told to get my parent! not even once!). but i was never stupid or careless enough to mess with them in the densely forested area in WA / the desert dries out socal areas i grew up in.

  • Sarah Smith

    Now he will get a psychiatric diagnosis ( if he doesn’t already have one) and will get drugged for life

    • Cat Gee

      nah. he’ll get a slap on the wrist and a warning, won’t have to do community service to the community, and his college application will be pristine. because plenty of people in this country, not just people commenting here but the legal system, deeply believe that boys will be boys and stop hurting their poor futures.

  • Belinda Price

    It is sad that a child made a dangerous and ill-advised choice that has resulted in the endangerment of human life and the destruction of an ecosystem. It is appalling that the author would use a headline that promotes the stereotyping and stigmatization of persons with intellectual disabilities. Just as I would not leave a sexist, racist or homophobic statement unchallenged, I must point out that using outdated, ignorant and inflammatory terms that deminish the respect and value of persons with disabilities, of any kind, is unacceptable. My hope is that the author and his readers will think twice in the future before making ignorant, linguistically lazy, stereotypic remarks, articles or headlines.

    • mike

      I think you’re confusing a moron with a person with “mental disabilities. A moron is really just another word for a stupid person. Seems to me that the author chose the correct word to describe the fire setter.

      mo·ron
      ˈmôrˌän/
      noun
      informal
      noun: moron; plural noun: morons
      a stupid person.
      synonyms:fool, idiot, ass, blockhead, dunce, dolt, ignoramus, imbecile, cretin, dullard, simpleton, clod; More
      informalnitwit, halfwit, dope, ninny, nincompoop, chump, dimwit, dingbat, dipstick, goober, coot, goon, dumbo, dummy, ditz, dumdum, fathead, numbskull, numbnuts, dunderhead, thickhead, airhead, butthead, flake, lamer, lamebrain, zombie, nerd, peabrain, birdbrain, scissorbill, jughead, mouth-breather, jerk, donkey, twit, goat, dork, twerp, hoser, schmuck, bozo, boob, turkey, schlep, chowderhead, dumbhead, goofball, goof, goofus, galoot, lummox, knuckle-dragger, klutz, putz, schlemiel, sap, meatball, dumb cluck, mook
      “what moron left ice cream on the stove?”
      antonyms:genius
      Origin
      early 20th century (as a medical term denoting an adult with a mental age of about 8–12): from Greek mōron, neuter of mōros ‘foolish.’

      • Belinda Price

        No. As your thesaurus shows, there are a number of different terms that can be used to belittle people in an effort to imply they have deminished intelligence. None of them promote positive self images for persons with actual limited mental capacities. With such a vast array of words available to describe people, places, things and actions there is no excuse to use hurtful terms once a person has been educated to recognize the words are hurtful. I work with patients with mental health issues. It is easy for many to perceive this population as being unaware or unimportant enough to make the effort to treat them with respect in all our words, actions and deeds. That is a mistake. Hopefully, this conversation will open the eyes and hearts of those that read this.

        • mike

          You’re the person equating morons with people who have mental disabilities. That’s on you, not the author. Maybe check yourself. Moron is an accurate description of the teens.

          • Belinda Price

            You are really vested in being right. You have my best wishes for your future happiness.

          • mike

            Thank you. Back at ya.

  • Maggie

    Punch Bowl seems to be very popular with the kids, and rightly so. When I’ve hiked up there though, the kids completely disregard other hikers and the wildlife and they really don’t get how fortunate they are to have such a place. It’s not a park, it’s the forest where other beings live, or lived. Fortunately mother nature will return in all her glory, although it will be a while……..

  • Dark Matter

    my family is 5 generations of native Oregonian this is devastating these fires why doesn’t our governor call on the president to send help to stop the west coast from burning down

  • Rose Savage

    Nobody’s perfect but there is absolutely no excuse for something like this. They obviously didn’t know the difference between right and wrong or just didn’t care. Not only could hikers have been killed but think about those people with breathing problems who have to find a way to cope with the poor air quality.

  • Eldred Brown

    I was a teenager once. Though I was one of the brightest kids in my class, I was also stupid and lacking in any common sense. I did stupid crap like this, though not to the same level of criminality as this. Try this idiot kid as an adult? NO WAY! He does need to be prosecuted and made to see the consequences of his boneheaded, impulsive decision. Maybe sentence him to serve his community by cleaning up after this fire he started. Hopefully that will teach him that stupid actions have sometimes dire consequences. Learning this, maybe he’ll mature into a thoughtful, careful young man who has both the common sense to not do moronic crap like this again and the wisdom to counsel other teenage boys to not do crap like this. Considering his age, lack of wisdom, and seeming lack of ability to foresee the consequences of his actions, I think it vengeful on our parts and lacking of mercy to try him as an adult capable and guilty of premeditating such malice. Let the punishment we mete out teach this boy wisdom and not merely satisfy our lust for vengeance.

    • elaich

      But ultimately you *did* know better, and you *were* making a choice. To me your defense seems suspiciously self-serving. There are people of all ages who think they can get away with doing things that put others at risk, which is about arrogance (which is learned, largely as a result of privilege,) not some supposed inability to control themselves. But somehow when we’re talking about teenagers, it’s instead “lack of impulse control,” which absolves them: “boys will be boys.” If a group of people grew up not being blamed for their assholery, I’d expect a portion of them to just go right ahead with more of that assholery, right up until the point that they’re actually held accountable for it and they stop because now it’s too much of a personal risk, which I guess we are calling “wisdom.” The reality is that you were a jerk, and decided later, for whatever reason, to be less of a jerk. That doesn’t mean that you somehow had no idea that you were being a jerk before, or that you couldn’t help it. *uck the “lack of impulse control” defense. Basically, all that’s doing is giving people a period of time to be assholes without suffering the full consequences. And there are people who will certainly take advantage of that.

      • Eldred Brown

        elaich, I think you misunderstand my post if you think I’m defending the kids who started this fire. I have spoken only of holding them accountable for their actions and confronting them with the full consequence of what they did. When did I say anything different?

        • Dustin Khabir

          He understood what you meant. The problem is you weren’t threatening to pull out a shotgun and go after the kid yourself. So in his mind your consequence wasn’t harsh enough.

          • jimmydd

            Man you’re a troll.

          • Dustin Khabir

            Just calling it like I see it.

  • Death penalty?

  • sandy66

    Funny because I was just thinking on my way home that there are probably half a million dyed in the wool Portland hippies who would happily consider the death penalty for this little prick.

    • Dustin Khabir

      Lol thank you. I was starting to feel like everyone was out to grab their pitchforks and go on a witch hunt.

  • Christine Stevens

    Having done stupid things at times, I feel sorry for the kid. It was most likely thoughtless, not malicious, and knowing he started all this is probably a heavy burden, knowing the losses he caused and the probable legal consequences are probably crushing already.

  • Cat Gee

    ” “Just as I was passing them I said ‘Do you realize you just started a forest fire?’ and the kid said, ‘Well, what are we supposed to do about it now?’” ”

    http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/09/05/woman-witnessed-teen-tossing-firecrackers-into-gorge-there-was-a-whole-group-of-kids-who-found-it-funny-to-do-this/

  • Hata H. Zappa

    For all you morons who want to start next year’s 4th of July celebrations two weeks early, remember this article and then realize that you could get the book thrown at you, too.

  • Jon Keller

    5 years on a Hotshot Crew with no pay and Community Service when not fighting fire.